I wasn't aware there is one 'latest and greatest distro'. I am merely
reporting the issue. I have no idea what's wrong and it is not my site
to debug. It might be even be something to do with the browser and
version. I am currently running Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.10 on Fedora 8. If
you need more information, let me know.

And for the record, the play button is not clickable on IE6/FF3 on
Windows XP as well - I think it is because these browsers does not
have plugins to handle ogg (firefox offers to search for plugins but
can't find one).

there isn't - the ubuntu fanbhois have now evolved from thinking the
ubuntu is the *only* distro, for which we must be thankful.

and
if everyone only debugged their own sites the opensource movement
would die

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A.Rajesh Khanna

That would the case with software but I wouldn't necessarily including
websites in it. Besides I am providing a detailed bug report and offered
to give you more information to help debug the problem. Since it's been
a long while since I worked on websites, I am not going to attempt to
fix the problem myself.

this is a web application and hence software

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A.Rajesh Khanna

I was able to play these after installing mozilla-mplayer package. It
is just that (though important) Debian and Fedora did not install
these browser plugins by default. In fact Debian had totem-mozilla by
default and which would have sufficed most users (not in this case for
sure). I HATE TOTEM. It gets installed by default on every distro and
it can't play anything (for anything useful with you have install
totem-xine, and I think debian does that by default) .

So install any media-player plugin in Fedora and try.

Fedora doesn't include Mplayer in any form in the official repository since it is difficult to separate the non-free or patent encumbered portions from other portions of Mplayer but third party repositories provide those.

This really is a matter of plugins and the media framework. Nowadays most players are wrappers around the media frameworks they support. Totem supports both gstreamer and Xine framework with distributions usually having the gstreamer backend as default. It supports Free formats out of the box but you would need additional plugins for other formats. With gstreamer, you would need gstreamer-plugins-bad and gstreamer-plugins-ugly.

IIRC totem-mozplugin is installed by default in Fedora but I seem to have removed it at some point but Mplayer browser plugin is already installed and handles ogg files in other websites but not in Ncrfoss one. I tried installing totem plugin as well as the Xine player plugin but nothing seems to have resolved this issue.

I have confirmed the same problem in another system running OpenSUSE 10.3 with Mozilla Firefox 2.0.0.11 with the VLC and Totem browser plugins installed FYI.

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J Suresh Kumar
Google Hacks

I think Mandriva provides mplayer by default.


Those were the times when you didn't know all these details (and still many of those I don't know) and there are many out there who does not know these details. That is why there should be same defaults. It was good for debian to have defaulted to totem-xine and installed totem-mozilla (though it didn't work in this particular case).

I tried to rebuild with one more mime type which was missing in totem but present in mplayer, but it didn't work.

Thanks

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A.Rajesh Khanna

I think instead of a label there should be a button for the play function. Right
now with a label, there is no feedback if the page element has been clicked
other than the sound playing which is not guaranteed.

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Shaalini.S
Be the Best of Whatever you are...

if firebug is installed, it will show what's happening

[quote=JSureshkumar;26164]Fedora doesn't include Mplayer in any form in the official repository since it is difficult to separate the non-free or patent encumbered portions from other portions of Mplayer but third party repositories provide those.
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I installed mplayerplug-in from livna but it still didn't play. I was able to play other ogg files like Category:The Four Million - Wikimedia Commons

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A.Rajesh Khanna

Xine would have the exact same problem if a distribution doesn't support patent encumbered formats. The multimedia framework doesn't change that situation.

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J Suresh Kumar
Google Hacks

That was the time when totem was not using any of these frame work
(anyone ubuntu 4.10 - was that the first version? or was it 5.10?)

and any sites that use embed tag?
You can download ogg files and many use Cortado java applet to play ogg.

Thanks

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Shaalini.S
Be the Best of Whatever you are...

Totem has been using both these frameworks for a very long time and even before Ubuntu ever existed.